Judge deems Canada's pot rules unconstitutional

In Ontario,Canada, you can get a permit to buy marijuana legally for medical reasons.
The supreme court of Canada has said that 'Canada's medical marijuana prgam is invalid'. They are denying access to this drugto those that need it. What do you guys think?
personnaly i think its funny that you can get a permet to buy a drug that is normally illegeal in this country.
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Source:Canoe.ca

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Oh yeah, i definently believe people are buying marijuana for medical reasons. I'll buy that.

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Some of them, actually hace a little paper from the doctor that says they are allowed to have some giving from a pharmacy, its for medical prposes only.

Where there is light, there is always darkness.

Seems a bit fishy, though. I dunno.

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you're right, it does.
I don't think this will alst long.

Where there is light, there is always darkness.

I am Pro-Pot, for medical reasons, anyway. It's better and more effective than the average pain-killer, and there's little-to-no chance of OD'ing on Marijuana. It's easy to do that on Tylenol...

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This is one of the boundaries of my libertarianism. I think it's outrageous that marijuana can be purchased, let alone that marijuana is even used.

The article states that a judge "found that ill people are forced to obtain marijuana through illegal means and is unconstitutional". So sick individuals, who supposedly have medical conditions that require such treatment, are purchasing it off the street? The validity of that claim is countered by the fact that medically-used cannabis is issued in the form of manufactured fluid, not the common leaf/powder form. I doubt that the average suffering person knows how to compose such a solution.

If marijuana is so medically beneficial, why is it met with so much resistance in the medical field? Its overall effectiveness is speculative, even radical. In spite of certain pain-relieving and side-effect reducing benefits, there are far too many health-killing effects to concisely mention here--everything from depression to cancer.

I think any proposed marijuana permit, a form granting permission to purchase pot, is clearly unacceptable.

Catch my drift.

Its legal here in California, and I am a proud card carrying Cannabis Card Member.

I live with and take care of a diabetic who has neruopathy, which is the lack of feeling and use of all of the major nerve endings in most of a persons appendages, which in turn is very very painful.

Rather than taking more pharmaceutical meds than this person already has to, this person relies on Medical Marijuana to satiate the pain.

I have severe insomnia, and I refuse to take pills for it made from chemicals and other stuff that is synthetic, therefore I use Medical Marijuana once in a great while to alive my insomnia and I can fall asleep.

Are either of us drug addicts? Nope.

Are either of us commiting drug related crimes? Nope

Are both of us getting relief from a NATURAL product from the Earth? Yep

The only reason why Marijuana is met with so much resistance is, the Government has no way to control it yet. They havent figured out a way to not only tax it properly, which leads to the illegal-ness in most states for it to be possessed.

If the Government can figure out a way to tax, filter, and sell Marijuana legally, think of the amount of revenue the taxes from pot will create. That means, more jobs, more money flowing, and less deficit for most states.

But no..People still think that OMG A LEAF THAT U SMOKE IS SO BAD FOR U..

Its a shame really.

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I can't believe i'm saying this, but Haru is most certainly right. More Jobs, less crime, and not to mention a lot more money flowing in.
The US could be a big importer of marijuana. It isn't as bad, and a cigar is much worse.

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The government has no way to control and tax it? That's hard to believe when the substance has been discovered for hundreds of years, processed and manufactured by pharmaceutical companies before 1900, and criminalized by many countries just about a century ago. Alcohol too has been around for ages and was prohibited temporarily by numerous countries in the early 1900s. And we should all know how heavily taxed alcohol is. Both marijuana and alcohol are huge markets, but one is largely illegal and the other is largely legal.

So why were they both banned? Because they were vices that caused mayhem for businesses, for militaries, for families. So lawmakers did what they believed to be ethical and outlawed them.

Not even going into the medical problems with the drug, marijuana is widely considered to be an addictive gateway drug. Once a person has a little, then they "need" more, and when that doesn't satisfy, they turn to more serious drugs. It's been proven over and over. Well, then aren't other medical drugs like oxycodone and morphine addictive too? Yes, that is why they are given in controlled doses, and not legal outside of a hospital or clinic.

If marijuana should be totally legalized as medication, it is foolish to think that everyone obtaining it is honestly ill, that an illness cannot be falsified, that the government can truly keep track of everyone who gets it, and that it will not be further processed and sold on the street for hundreds per ounce.

But isn't another good part of legalization that the illegal market would collapse? No, of course not. It's based on what people want, and when people want drugs, they go to other people, not the government. And how are people affected? People who want the drugs take the drugs. People who want more drugs, buy and take more drugs. People who want the money sell the drugs. People who want neither the drug nor the money can run the risk of being caught up in one of the thousands and thousands of drug-related crimes. It's a vicious cycle that government legalization would only enable.

My main point is: medical or not, a drug is a drug.

Catch my drift.

Exactly, a drug is a drug.

So..In that case, why is Tylenol, NyQuil, Alieve, Bayer Asprin all legal to buy over the counter, and does the same thing, and is just as addictive?

Also, it has been proven that it ISNT a "gateway drug" and that there are LESS crimes committed while under the influence of Marijuana than those of Crack Cocaine, Methamphetamines and Heroin.

also

"DURHAM, N.H. – New research from the University of New Hampshire shows that the "gateway effect" of marijuana – that teenagers who use marijuana are more likely to move on to harder illicit drugs as young adults – is overblown.

Whether teenagers who smoked pot will use other illicit drugs as young adults has more to do with life factors such as employment status and stress, according to the new research. In fact, the strongest predictor of whether someone will use other illicit drugs is their race/ethnicity, not whether they ever used marijuana.

Conducted by UNH associate professors of sociology Karen Van Gundy and Cesar Rebellon, the research appears in the September 2010, issue of the Journal of Health and Social Behavior in the article, "A Life-course Perspective on the 'Gateway Hypothesis.' "

"In light of these findings, we urge U.S. drug control policymakers to consider stress and life-course approaches in their pursuit of solutions to the 'drug problem,' " Van Gundy and Rebellon say.

The researchers used survey data from 1,286 young adults who attended Miami-Dade public schools in the 1990s. Within the final sample, 26 percent of the respondents are African American, 44 percent are Hispanic, and 30 percent are non-Hispanic white.

The researchers found that young adults who did not graduate from high school or attend college were more likely to have used marijuana as teenagers and other illicit substances in young adulthood. In addition, those who used marijuana as teenagers and were unemployed following high school were more likely to use other illicit drugs.

However, the association between teenage marijuana use and other illicit drug abuse by young adults fades once stresses, such as unemployment, diminish.

"Employment in young adulthood can protect people by 'closing' the marijuana gateway, so over-criminalizing youth marijuana use might create more serious problems if it interferes with later employment opportunities," Van Gundy says.

In addition, once young adults reach age 21, the gateway effect subsides entirely.

"While marijuana use may serve as a gateway to other illicit drug use in adolescence, our results indicate that the effect may be short-lived, subsiding by age 21. Interestingly, age emerges as a protective status above and beyond the other life statuses and conditions considered here. We find that respondents 'age out' of marijuana's gateway effect regardless of early teen stress exposure or education, work, or family statuses," the researchers say.

The researchers found that the strongest predictor of other illicit drug use appears to be race-ethnicity, not prior use of marijuana. Non-Hispanic whites show the greatest odds of other illicit substance use, followed by Hispanics, and then by African Americans."

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-09/uonh-rom083110.php

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Haha; so you are saying, "let the gov spend money instead of earn it". Is that it? Marijuana would bring in more money, and will HELP the economy. And alcohol has a lot more incidents... Even it causes social issues, family issues and on and on. Could Marijuana cause this? Sure, but are the chances as likely? No;

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A drug is a drug, as in every one should be taken seriously.

As far as I know, Alleve and aspirin don't have addictive qualities. I don't know much about NyQuil. Tylenol, though, is infamous as one of the worst OTC pain-killers in both long-term effects and addictiveness. And these drugs do not all "do the same thing"; they relieve pain in varying effectiveness for different individuals. Marijuana, however, does a bit...more than relieve pain.

Less crimes committed because of marijuana than those because of the likes of heroin, meth, etc.? That doesn't much decry the gateway idea; it more supports that people do crazier and crazier things while under the influence of heavier drugs.

There have been studies that point either way on the gateway effect. The ones that deny the theory don't ignore as much progression information as they tie in sketchily-related social data. Studies in favor of it are far from a perfect, but present a direct correlative approach.

Your article claims that race/ethnicity has a larger part in determining progression to more harmful drugs. That is ridiculous. Is it not instead about other things like how/where the person was raised, how their culture influenced them? Putting the blame on race infers that certain races do not have such a problem with it. The genetic argument is also null because addiction is addiction, not a disorder/disease.

It also says that "once young adults reach age 21, the gateway effect subsides entirely." A theory isn't valid when it only largely applies to one age group? Do consider that the 18-25 age group has the highest rate (nearly 60%) of substance abuse. For under 18, the rate is still 30%.

I believe that any and all drugs should be rated and made legal/illegal based both on their psychoactive substance content and amount.

Whether the gateway theory is nonsense or not, it doesn't change what marijuana is.

Catch my drift.

@Syed75 Contrary to popular belief, taxes are not the only way to produce income for the government. And the economy does not improve when the individual is taxed more and more.

Catch my drift.

Your taxed for Marijuana, selling and buying. And there is something knows as "legal limit" which one can implement. And Marijuana would bring "some countries" out of poverty. If alcohol is allowed then marijuana should be allowed to. Even if the crime rate under the influence goes up.. It won't be strong enough to match "illegal influence". Right? I rather have a 25% crime rate under the influence of marijuana than 60% illegal.

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Syed, do you realize how much people would abuse marijuana if you could buy it normally?! They deemed as illegal for a reason. The government would have surely taxed it if it didn't have such harmful effects on people.

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Therefore we innovate a know thing called "limit". Don't people abuse alcohol? Narcotics? Why yes you'll even see over the counter meds ABUSED.

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I'm not talking limit. It's not like you can take a little bit, and not be hurt by it. It's like sex; you only did it a little bit, but the baby still happened.

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It's not easy to over do pot.

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I see no societal benefits of legalizing marijuana. Something that evokes an altered state of mind just opens up a slew of trouble for many, especially those in law enforcement. We already have a large problem with drunk driving, do we really need another medium through which people can commit stupid actions?

It's my job to help the next generation, and set a good example for them. And for that I'll gladly lay down my life.